Vixea Manplus   anymore. So this point right up here, this is the point where they're talking about the breaking off point. So if you see right here, the point of no return is at the peak and what you're doing is you're actually to get to the non-ejaculatory orgasms which are up here, you're bypassing, Manplus  you're going underneath this point of no return and coming up. And so he has it listed here the contractile-phase involuntary PC and prostate contractions and that happens before the point of no return. I'll agree that some of those happen but none of the teachers that I've talked to, none of the men that I've talked to have had the full on like involuntary, crazy release type orgasm without ejaculation. It just doesn't seem to be a thing. Now, I will say that a lot of guys have thought that they're having this experience but what's actually happening is they're having a retrograde ejaculation. So that means they're actually stopping.

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